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From the EPPC comes a "conversation" between two scholars - one believes the Muslims will complete the siege of Europe they didn't complete in 1683 while the other believes Europe's iron-fisted secularism will triumph over Islam. Who has the better argument? Give it a listen...


Islam and the Fate of Europe: Eurabia or Islamic Assimilation?
A Conversation with George Weigel and Philip Jenkins

Commenting on low birth rates and the increase in Muslim population, no less an authority than Bernard Lewis has said, "Current trends show that Europe will have a Muslim majority by the end of the twenty-first century at the latest. . . . Europe will be part of the Arab West-the Maghreb."

In his book The Cube and the Cathedral George Weigel invites us to envision a "Europe in which the muezzin summons the faithful to prayer from the central loggia of St. Peter's in Rome, while Notre Dame has been transformed into Hagia Sophia on the Seine-a great Christian church become an Islamic museum." Weigel, Lewis and others, including Daniel Pipes, Hirsi Ali, Bat Y'eor and Mark Steyn, believe we should be profoundly alarmed at the consequences for the West.

In God's Continent: Christianity, Islam, and Europe's Religious Crisis, Philip Jenkins offers a more sanguine prognosis of the future of Europe, and seeks to counter what he takes to be unduly alarmist understandings of the future of Europe. While admitting that Europe will probably be in for a "bumpy ride," Jenkins believes we have reason to be less pessimistic. Secularization and other factors will likely encourage Muslim assimilation to Western norms in the twenty-first century, just as they have had similar effects of Christians in the twentieth-century.

For an audio recording of this event, please click here for Part I, and here for Part II.

7 comments so far:
    Anonymous September 19, 2009 at 6:03 PM , said...

    Inshallah. Europe will be conquered once again by the the soldiers of the Noble Prophet (SAW). You Euros continue to have homosexual relations and just one or 2 kids per family. The Muslim Empire will continue its procreation rate at 6 to 8 kids per family. Its only a matter of time that guns, bombs and violence are no longer needed. The population will be too over-bearing for you and you will have no choice to lay down your arms and surrender to the Word of Allah. The time is coming.

    Anonymous January 24, 2010 at 7:10 AM , said...

    ummmm okay wow to the perso above muslims havin 6 kids has nothing to do with anything and it dosnet really happen lolz and also twards the article the number of uslims is growing because its a great religion christianty has some good aspects but to many contridictions how should a muslim know you ask its cause i have a bible i study other religions so i can see in everyones aspects

    alex April 11, 2011 at 7:59 PM , said...

    Allah Akbar
    Allah Akbar
    Allah Akbar

    inshaa Allah Islam will go to Europe
    and Allah with us
    we are Muslims and proud to be Muslims

    I am a Muslim is no need to panic

    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم ( قل هو الله احد الله الصمد لم يلد ولم يولد ولم يكن له كفوا احد ) صدق الله العظيم

    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم ( إن الدين عند الله الاسلام) صدق الله العظيم

    alex April 11, 2011 at 8:06 PM , said...
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    alex April 11, 2011 at 8:12 PM , said...

    These verses from the Holy Quran

    the name of Allah the Beneficent, the Merciful (Say He is Allah is one, Allah, the Eternal begets not and was not stopped one of) the truth of God's great

    the name of Allah the Beneficent, the Merciful (The religion at allah is islam) the truth of God's great

    Waffen SS August 21, 2011 at 10:14 AM , said...

    Don't worry guys, Muslims' fate will be like Jews' in Auschwitz. Germans will wake up soon again after WW2 anesthesia.

    Sherina Mohamed May 3, 2013 at 11:12 AM , said...

    Our religion, Islam, prophesies that Muslims will be greater in number towards the end of time. Already one can see that even though the Roman Catholics are greater in number at present, they are growing through the birth rate. But Muslims are growing larger from conversions and new people accepting Islam. We love our Christian friends. They are all creations of Allah(sw) whom He also loves. We have to treat them kindly. However, we cannot deny the prophesy that Islam will prevail! Maybe this is why non-Muslims are so worried that this will happen that every opportunity they get to blame and annihilate Muslims, they make use of it. Think carefully before hurting Muslims!!


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